I'm glad to help in any way, though your probably better off hearing from some women too. try the following incontinence sites as well. -<>- http://www.simonfoundation.org < OR > gourmetconnection.com/bb/bedwettingadults/ You have very many choices now a day's on where to buy products. A good plastic pant over the pull-up's, for at work might be the 1's I often use, bought from the Harriet Carter catalog. 90% of the world seems to get this catalog. you get 3 pairs for only, $7.98 <> they don't last / hold up, as long as other brands but seem to fit snug enough that no one knows I'm wearing them. Web site as follows - harrietcarter.com you may wanna just type in -- incontinence -- and search on your internet. There is a real lot of new information / places to buy products almost daily. <> Keep us / me, posted -- Sincerely, D.B.