hi my name is nikki i have a daughter who is 10 and has the same problem as yours i have tried everything like yourself and get her up 3 times a night for a wee she has the alarm you mentioned and has had ddvp spray and tabs but they never worked at all i am from the uk and would like to chat to you maybe in the chat room let me know where you are from and what time you will enter the room does your child use this site? speak soon nikki