Linda: Your question will take a perhaps short, but subjective, reply. I am wondering just why Kerri continues to "threaten" Aimee with pullups. You or Kerri should buy a starter package of pullups to use as evidence that Kerri is meaning business, no more putting off this wetting and soiling without being properly dressed with protection. Kerri can display them or keep them aside under cover until the matter is resolved and the rules are set out. REMEMBER to assure Aimee that these or any other protection are not punishment, but are necessary so long as she continues to avoid going to the potty instead of wetting herself and soiling. Tell Aimee she must begin to take care of her toileting needs and that she cannot continue to wet and poopy on car seats, chairs, the sofa, at friends homes and so on, not to mention her clothes. Since she is doing these things and also not being discrete at school, I personally would strongly suggest you get her some plastic pants to go on over the pullups. Hopefully, these will protect things and perhaps help to avoid the name-calling and ridicule that she suffers from others. Also, the pullups, like goodnites, may leak some and the pants will offer added protection. Aimee may recoil at these things, but you and Kerri would have to be just as focused and insistant towards Aimee's comfort and doing what is best for her. And for friends and playmates for that matter. Hope you get something from this reply or at least help you to make decisions towards helping Aimee. There may be some trial and error along the way, so be aware of that possibility. Let us know if you might need some additional assistance. We will advise whatever we can......mr j