Dear Deborah and all, As a male poster on this board am neither an AB or a DL and certainly Not a pedophile i have 3 children one now just turned 20 a girl and i have 2 younger boys ! i come on this board because i wish to try and help Notice the operative word Try and Help! as I have gone through wetting the bed my self and also my children have and I do sympathise with parents who have children wetting as it was with me it crushed my self esteem and i have all along said the same as you are saying but was too shy to come out and say it, but I do agree with you all I try to point out is the pro's and cons and try to shed some light on the subject inconcerned as parents and i have said this before we sometimes dont take a step back and look at the whole perspective. best wishes Tom.Uk