Monica your exact words “She doesn't like wearing them, but she's old enough to know that they're convenient” and “I love her and i do what i think is in her best interest.” I’m sure you don’t think of it as force but based or your post’s and reply’s you have a temper and you go off whenever challenged. I am sure your daughter knows it is in her best interest to do as she is told. I know I hit a raw nerve with my posts and my concern with using protection on older adolescent age kids. The fact is your earliest post that is available listed child age as 15 on 7/5/02 now she is 17 and still wetting the bed and She is still using goodnights. I was only sharing my own personal experience for anyone who was interested in how a child with a bedwetting problem might feel. You say I should keep it to myself but it is impossible for someone who has never had this problem to understand. Using protection can sometimes prolong the wetting. If you don’t feel your self-getting wet your brain doesn’t make the connection of the release of urine with becoming wet. That is exactly how I learned at almost 16 years old. You say sleep is the issue but if she is a deep sleeper and doesn’t wake when she is wet? She is old enough to manage herself and if she can feel herself becoming wet then she might wake and learn to wake herself. I do know one thing every bedwetter has self-esteem issues the sooner she can put this behind her better off she will be. Name calling and personal attacks will not solve a thing. I suspect that other people in your circle and family have offered advice and you come here to find support for your position on this issue. Let me finish by reminding you of a reply advice you gave Sharon on page 10 of this bored. On 01/03/03 See below also read Sharon’s post on 12/30/02. Stephanie Reply from Monica, Child's Age 16 - 1/3/03 - IP#: 12.84.104.72 This might sound a little mean, but maybe you should force him into diapers. This will mean he was forced into doing something he didn't want to, but he'll get the idea that if he doesn't wet he won't have unpleasent experiences like this again. Do whatever you want though, this is just a suggestion.