reply to Adam. Dear Adam, whilest I agree there are some unsavoury charectors on the site there are also genuine people especially onthe adult parents site whom try to give impartial advice!I myself have three children andmy eldest wet up til age 14 and my youngest son aged 7 my daughter stopped at aged 3 But when i was a child I was 17 when i finally stopped and because of what I went through with my children and my own experiance i Feel i am contributing some realistic help albeit laymans advice However i do advise that the parent have their child checked out by a GP or urologist first!. the purpose of this board is to try and support the parent which i do try to do!.as it does knock the childs self esteem!I know it did me!. so we are not all unsavoury charectors . best wishes, Tom